History Channel

Oh. My. God. Becky, look at China.  It's so big!  Anybody watch 'Engineering and Empire' on the History Channel?  They did China last night.  China is friggin' amazing.  It's basically been around since the dawn of civilization and it never really fell apart completely.  Well, it fell a few times to the Mongols, but it bounced back every time.  China is kinda scary like that.  Those guy have moxie.  They built an ocean-going armada that was three times as big as either Britian or Spain during the height of both country's navies.  One of the Chinese ships was the biggest wooden ship ever built.  They were going all over the place too until some emporer died and the new one ordered all the ships destroyed.  Nobody even knows why he burned them all.  Engineering an Empire is such an awesome show.  Another new History channel show worth watching is Dogfights.  They recreate all these famous aviation dogfights with computer simulations and they have some of the survivors talk about each fight.  Kick ass. 
TheJoeD on
I watched something recently about China on either Discovery or TLC. Just their irrigation systems alone were amazing. Their whole history is really really interesting. Chinese people kick ass.
Cavutto on

They really lucked out on in a geographical sense by having two really long rivers that ran parallel latitudily.  (?)  North/South rivers aren't quite as good because you get a much more varied climate going in those directions and its pretty much impossible to domesticate certain plants and animals across the country if it is a vertical type.  Having them be parallel made it easier to connect through canals.  Those Chinese were definitely not scared of giant public works projects. 

Speaking of public works projects, there was a funny line in this weeks Simpsons episode where the grandpa was having a flashback to his time in WWII and he's on this deserted island and he finds Santa Claus and says, "What in the name of the Tennesee Valley Authority!?!" 

TheJoeD on
I think their geographical/ farming crap is probably the only thing that you can believe is 100% historically accurate. Pretty much every government they've had has been interested in nothing more than destroying or altering their history to make themselves look better. At least that's been the case for the last 125 years or so. Weird.
Cavutto on

I think the 125-year argument works for Japan because they had a radical shift in national identity after the arrival of Commodore Perry in the 1850's (Tokugawa to Meiji restoration).  China's major identity shift is mostly a result of the adoption of Communism after WWII.

Edited: one decade off on Perry...also, many of China's technological innovations are readily apparent, such as the advent of paper, gunpowder, and a good calendar.  Not to mention the Wall. 

TheJoeD on
I'm talkin' dynasties, man. The history of the Shaolin Temple is a good example of all this stuff. I don't know. I don't feel like looking up a bunch of links and factoids.
Cavutto on

Oh, I didn't realize you meant dynastic shifts.  I'm not really too good with Chinese history either...much better with Japan.  Japan is a lot easier because they were always way more isolationist and have a relatively homogenus history.  Same imperial lineage going back to before 1000 A.D.  Of course, there were changes over the course of events, but to keep the same imperial lineage going that long is something of an anomaly in the history books.

I could never keep all the Chinese dynasties straight.  Too many and they all sound the same, you know? 

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